Premier League stars refuse to back down as they tell their clubs (and Matt Hancock!) In Garside & Laycock Ltd v Booth [2011] IRLR 735 the employer encountered trading difficulties and decided to ask its employees to accept a 5% pay reduction. "Unless there is a clause in your contract which allows your employer to [cut your pay] you can refuse," Adam Pavey, employment solicitor at Poole Alcock Solicitors told The Sun. If you do decide to stay on then yes, you will be sent a consent letter to sign. Obviously it's a bit unfair that 3 people get to sit at home and do nothing and get 80% of their pay and the others have to work 4 days a week but the company had the initiative and common sense not to expect them to keep working 5 days a week for less pay. Taking a pay cut is never ideal, but it doesn’t have to spell career doom. Phone ACAS for advice before you do anything. Those opportunities may start to dwindle as states reopen, experts say. If, however, your pay is cut—either on its own or in conjunction with an hours cut or furlough—then your employer might be required to treat you like a nonexempt employee and pay you overtime for any extra hours you work. Former Germany international wants to wait and see how football’s financial crisis during the coronavirus lockdown plays out at Arsenal before deciding whether to follow the example set by his club teammates, Find your bookmarks in your Independent Premium section, under my profile. I would weigh it all up. “Reductions of total annual earnings by 12.5 per cent will come into effect this month, with the contractual paperwork being completed in the coming days. We are asking to reduce your monthly salary from $4,000 to $3,680 beginning one month from now. MOSCOW (Sputnik) - Welsh football star Gareth Bale was the only Real Madrid player to refuse a salary cut due to the pandemic stoppage, media reported Saturday. My understanding is that they can't force you, but I suspect that unofficially those who refuse to accept a pay cut will be at the top of list for redundancy or to be got rid of in some other way (eg disciplinary) without a paper trail leading to the real reason.Are you still as financially secure without it if/when full and hard recession hits? The squad refused at first, but after players from Barcelona, Atletico Madrid and many other European clubs agreed the shrink their salaries, Real Madrid players agreed the pay cut, the radio station reported. Mesut Ozil has reported refused to take a 12.5 per cent pay cut at Arsenal (Getty Images) Arsenal ’s players are unhappy with Mesut Ozil being vilified after he … Start your Independent Premium subscription today. If all Asians receive a pay cut, but no one else, that's illegal. To feel indignant when a neighbour has no interest in me. Preemptive cuts more mean we're more likely to all ride out the storm better with less job losses. Australian Super Rugby players agreed to an average 60 per cent salary hit after the competition was paused in March - and Rugby Australia's brittle financial state was revealed - because of … In summary, it is possible to fairly sack an employee if they refuse a pay cut, but the imposition of the pay cut must be absolutely essential, possibly involving the future survival of the business and must also be imposed fairly and following a reasonable consultation. PFA chief executive Gordon Taylor told the Premier League and EFL on Wednesday that he will not agree to his members (footballers) taking a pay cut … Therefore, the employees who refuse to consent to the pay cuts have the contractual right to remain on their current level of pay. Barcelona are in a cash crisis amid the coronavirus pandemic, with under-fire president Josep Maria Bartomeu trying to balance the books in his final few months in the role.. Read our full mailing list consent terms here, “What the exact financial impact is on the clubs, we can see three to six months later - but we can’t see it today.”. Due to the sheer scale of this comment community, we are not able to give each post the same level of attention, but we have preserved this area in the interests of open debate. Anyone coming to it fresh would need time to develop. In these conversations there has been a clear appreciation of the gravity of the current situation caused by the Covid-19 pandemic and a strong desire for players and staff to show their backing for the Arsenal family. Are you in a union? If they do refuse to accept pay cuts, can the employer dismiss those employees? During this period, we will continue to monitor the company's financial situation. AIBU to think women should not be banned from Social media for asking the question. He hasn’t ruled out taking the pay-cut, but already his decision has been ridiculed by members of the press and fans on social media. Ozil is not completely against the pay cut but will wait to see the full extend of the crisis, {{#verifyErrors}} {{message}} {{/verifyErrors}} {{^verifyErrors}} {{message}} {{/verifyErrors}}, Ranking net transfer spending in world football, Ozil among three Arsenal players to reject pay cut, the club became the first to agree a 12.5 per cent wage reduction, Arsenal players and staff agree 12.5% pay cut, Arsenal players receiving psychological help during coronavirus crisis, Arsenal directors waive over a third of earnings for next year, Arsenal vow not to furlough staff amid ‘productive’ talks with players, You may not agree with our views, or other users’, but please respond to them respectfully, Swearing, personal abuse, racism, sexism, homophobia and other discriminatory or inciteful language is not acceptable, Do not impersonate other users or reveal private information about third parties, We reserve the right to delete inappropriate posts and ban offending users without notification. I'm sure someone else in a less fortunate position to you would be very happy to take your job over. A €3.4 billion taxpayer-funded bailout for the Dutch flag carrier KLM has been withdrawn by the country’s government after pilots and other unions rejected a plan to slash wages for up to five years. We would like to cut your pay by 10%. The Gunners are currently in a stand-off with their playing staff after they rejected a 12.5% pay cut worth £25m in total. My job isn't easy to replace especially as I am part time and most others are FT. If all men get a pay cut, but no women, that's illegal. KLM has described the COVID-19 pandemic as its “deepest crisis since World War II” and has already reduced its workforce by 5,000 employees. Ozil’s agent Erkut Sogut refused to comment on the matter on Monday, but has previously spoken of his opposition to complete pay cuts among the playing squad. Could you check your household insurance policies for a legal advice line? Premier League stars refuse to back down as they tell their clubs (and Matt Hancock!) In this case, the employer sought to impose changes to terms and conditions, including a pay reduction of … 370 Join the conversation Arsenal’s annual wage bill is in the region of £230m, but although that will now be significantly reduced, there are still fears that the club will need a significant cash injection from Kroenke in order to avoid major financial issue in the coming years - something the the American billionaire has not been keen to do during his tenure as majority shareholder. Is this allowed and what can I do if I'm not happy? In a video conference among top brass last Friday, it was discussed how the players, akin to the everyday public, should take a pay cut too. My DH took the view that as redundancies will almost certainly happen after this he would rather take a pay cut and work (and show himself to be essential) rather then be furloughed. Yes, it's the 100% work for less than 100% pay that is annoying. However, while most clubs have been able to agree on a deal with the players, it would seem that three Arsenal players are refusing to take the 12.5% pay-cut that the majority of the squad has taken. I chose to carry on working for the same reason as your husband. This might happen in one of two ways: First, you will no longer be exempt if your salary is cut to less than $684 per week. "). @Castreet they can’t make you take a wage reduction. The employer will not be dismissing them on the grounds of a redundancy situation: ie, a diminishing requirement for a particular kind of work, workplace closure or business closure, but on the basis of the refusal to accept a pay cut. Heathrow bosses threaten thousands of staff with the sack if they refuse to take 15% pay cut during coronavirus crisis. Owners Kroenke Sports & Entertainment have already indicated they “are fully committed to supporting Arsenal through”. UPDATE 4:20 p.m. I think if you need the money and have a job (even with a pay cut for a period) then that's a fortunate position to be in and better than most. If all men get a pay cut, but no women, that's illegal. play. If I Refuse a 20 Percent Pay Cut, Is it a Resignation or Termination? Have they not said what the alternative is? Or just have an Internet browse - it's a common and current problem, lots of the unions, ACAS and CRB have probably written online about it. A pay cut is a change to your employment contract and you have the right to disagree with it. The reduction has been agreed “to help cover some of the financial risks” being posed by the outbreak of Covid-19, which has seen all games suspended since Arsenal manager Mikel Arteta was diagnosed with coronavirus nearly six weeks ago. Murray Wenzel 17th May, 2020. Pay cuts can't be a retroactive surprise. So essentially cut 20% of their work week so take a 20% pay cut. The resulting savings will help cover some of the financial risks we have this season in relation to our matchday and commercial income.”, The club’s executive team have voluntarily waived more than a third of their earnings over the next year to cope with what they called “one of the most challenging periods in our near 134-year history.”. Reds trio refuse to take pay cut, stood down by QRU. Ozil is actively involved in donating to a number of charities himself, with the 92-cap Germany international memorably using his wedding with wife Amine to pay for 1,000 children to have life-changing surgery, as well as providing food for 100,000 homeless people at 16 refugee camps and shelters in Turkey and Syria. I think if you write back they will either keep you on the same wage or furlough you. My DH's workplace had a group consultation and asked 3 specific people where their work isn't needed at the moment to go on furlough and get 80% of their salary and asked the remaining workforce for that department, including my DH, if they would work 4 days a week for 80% of their pay. If you refuse to take a pay cut then your employer either has the choice of backing down or, as threatened, making you redundant. Want an ad-free experience?Subscribe to Independent Premium. Please be respectful when making a comment and adhere to our Community Guidelines. Unfortunately a lot of firms are, I think, using this crisis to cut their wage bills and push it onto people without choice. However, in practice, if the majority have consented and are now receiving lower pay to avoid redundancies it would not be acceptable to have a few fellow workers doing the same job for higher rates of pay. Warren Refused Voluntary Pay Cut, Watched Low Income Employees Get Fired. Help prepare me for awkward conversation! As reports ESPN 's … There was another thread on this. For instance, if you complain that your boss is sexually harassing you, and then your pay is cut, that is called retaliation and it is illegal. I work part time in a low-ish paid job but which is quite demanding.The employer is cutting everyone's pay by the same percentage with some people furloughed. Companies will be looking to make redundancies on their back of all of this. That said if you don't need the money and see it as a negative, then no one is holding you to it. A No. Thank you for all the answers and I am so sorry for those who have no choice but to accept something like this. Arsenal legend lists the … In Garside & Laycock Ltd v Booth [2011] IRLR 735 the employer encountered trading difficulties and decided to ask its employees to accept a 5% pay reduction. This is page 1 of 1 (This thread has 24 messages.). You can find our Community Guidelines in full here. Small numbers of redundancies can be carried out fairly quickly. Is it taking you below national minimum wage? You can use your new salary to negotiate for that work-from-home situation you’ve been wanting, or you can view this as a sign from the universe that it’s time to make a switch. "Unless there is a clause in your contract which allows your employer to [cut your pay] you can refuse," Adam Pavey, employment solicitor at Poole Alcock Solicitors told The Sun. But star striker Lionel Messi doesn’t want to accept a 30 percent pay cut at Barcelona, Spanish sports daily Marca has reported.. Premier League stars REFUSE 30 per cent wage cut and say: We want to help the NHS, not rich owners Dan King, Andrew Dillon, Phil Thomas and Duncan Wright 5 Apr 2020, 14:27 It might help others keep jobs they desperately need. Apr 30th, 2020. Employers will usually explain … When the pay cut is discriminatory. Ozil has not ruled out taking a pay cut in the future if the situation plays out in a way that the move becomes unavoidable, but though he has expressed his respect for the rest of the squad’s decision, he has asked them to do the same with his. The Dutch Finance Minister Wopke Hoekstra said on Saturday that their refusal was “disappointing”, telling reporters it’s “really important now that… Anyone coming to it fresh would need time to develop.I am just trying to work out what the most likely scenario would be if I refuse the pay cut ... Redundancy or dismissal if it was construed as resignation? The executive staff has already taken the same pay cut. I'm a single parent so even though I'm in a professional industry, don't have lots of money left over. The pay cut that was proposed by the university was a way to offset the loss of money from the COVID-19 pandemic. Furlough pay and pay for those who stay in work would be the same.I wouldn't be furloughed but expected to work the same hours for less pay and have been asked to accept this in writing.What is likely to happen if I either just don't confirm my acceptance or write back to say I don't accept it?I used to enjoy the job but we can manage without the money and I'm weighing up if it's worth the effort of carrying on. Employees at London Heathrow Airport are told to accept coronavirus pay cut LAPD Officers Refuse to Discuss Potential Pay Cuts Because of Pandemic Eric Leonard 11/16/2020 Kansas mayor resigns over violent threats for backing mask mandate: ‘I … Redundancy wouldn't be worry (I know, I am in a fortunate position in that respect).I work more for the sense of purpose and small income, but if that small income is smaller still, it may tip the balance to not being worthwhile and I'd prefer to do voluntary work for something closer to my heart. Create a commenting name to join the debate, There are no Independent Premium comments yet - be the first to add your thoughts, There are no comments yet - be the first to add your thoughts. Soccer stars bite the hand that feeds, refuse pay cut Manchester City’s Kevin De Bruyne, Watford captain Troy Deeney and West Ham skipper Mark Noble led the fightback by Dave Makichuk April 6, … When the pay cut is discriminatory. Elizabeth Warren, the candidate, has attempted to position herself a champion of the common man, a defender of the working class, and a hero to Americans throughout the country who are struggling to make ends me. The company always has the option of evaluating their workforce and making jobs redundant. The process which the employer adopted when consulting with employees with regard to the pay cut would also have to be scrutinised for fairness. ... meaning a pay cut of more than 50 … Are you sure you want to delete this comment? Thousands of employees at … Arsenal stars refuse pay cut after being told to qualify for UCL. The existing Open Comments threads will continue to exist for those who do not subscribe to Independent Premium. However, in practice, if the majority have consented and are now receiving lower pay to avoid redundancies it would not be acceptable to have a few fellow workers doing the same job for higher rates of pay. I would take it as a compliment they want to keep you on but if you refuse it then I'm not sure what would happen. As part of the agreement, Arteta has also agreed to the salary reduction, having played a key role in negotiating the measure between club and players after something of a stand-off in recent weeks. Arsenal players reject pay cut to aid club and demand wage deferral or bust This article is more than 8 months old Squad asked for 12.5% pay cut if Champions League not attained Staff at London Heathrow Airport face being sacked if they refuse to accept a 15 per cent pay cut during the coronavirus pandemic. Ozil also used his 2014 World Cup winnings to fund surgery for 23 Brazilian children to have operations, at a cost of £240,000. My job isn't easy to replace especially as I am part time and most others are FT. It has emerged that one of the players that has refused to take the pay-cut is Mesut Ozil. “The agreement is based on the assumption we will finish the season 2019/20 and receive the full broadcasting revenues. Mesut Ozil is among three Arsenal players who have rejected taking a pay cut after the club became the first to agree a 12.5 per cent wage reduction during the coronavirus lockdown. Your current position and duties will remain the same. The most insightful comments on all subjects will be published daily in dedicated articles. Madrid captain Sergio Ramos took it up himself to persuade players to accept the reduction in wages while Zinedine Zidane helped the team recognize the importance of helping out by taking a pay cut. @AlwaysCheddar That might be worth a try.Thanks for all the responses so far, it's good to hear different views. BBC warning as millions of over-75s refuse to pay licence fee in fury at 'broken promises' BBC bosses have been warned millions of Britons aged 75 and over are refusing to pay … The claimant was one of two members of the 80-plus workforce who refused to accept the proposal; he was dismissed. To use this feature subscribe to Mumsnet Premium - get first access to new features see fewer ads, and support Mumsnet. It seems a crap thing to do - cut everyone’s pay but still expect some to work, but times are tough . Pilots are said to be worst affected by the planned pay cuts, with local media reporting plans to slash the wages of KLM’s 3,000 strong pilot workforce by as much as 20 per cent. Business News Digital Labels & Publishers Legal Top Stories Judge refuses to cut the billion dollar damages Cox must pay the majors By Chris Cooke | Published on Wednesday 13 January 2021. Our journalists will try to respond by joining the threads when they can to create a true meeting of independent Premium. To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account. It allows our most engaged readers to debate the big issues, share their own experiences, discuss real-world solutions, and more. Rays ace Blake Snell says he refuses to play for reduced MLB salary. Workers may be able to collect unemployment benefits after refusing work or quitting a job. In a statement, the club said: “We are pleased to announce that we have reached a voluntary agreement with our first-team players, head coach and core coaching staff to help support the club at this critical time. Soccer stars bite the hand that feeds, refuse pay cut Manchester City’s Kevin De Bruyne, Watford captain Troy Deeney and West Ham skipper Mark Noble led the fightback by Dave Makichuk April 6, 2020 April 6, 2020 Mesut Ozil caused controversy when refused to take a 12.5% pay cut at Arsenal back in April. It's nasty and cutthroat and unfair- but it's the harsh reality of business.Decisions should be made with this in mind. A Set small text size A Set the default text size A Set large text size. Please continue to respect all commenters and create constructive debates. Mesut Ozil has defended his decision to refuse a pay cut at Arsenal during lockdown, insisting that “people have been trying for two years to destroy … I am hoping the lack of spending In other areas at the moment will make up the shortfall!Op I am hugely grateful to my employer for not turning straight to redundancies and taking these measures to try and ensure it stays that way.